2010 diesel cars in the USA: here’s the lineup

Wait! Have you seen our guide to 2011 diesel cars yet?

There really hasn’t been any significant increase in the number of diesel cars available on the US market since our 2009 diesel car post from last year.  While common in Europe, stricter emissions requirements in some states and the recent temporary bout of high priced diesel fuel here has most car manufacturers hesitant to invest the money for what has only shown to be a small segment of the market so far in the United States.

Here is this year’s list of which 2010 diesel cars that automobile manufacturers will be offering:

ACURA:

Acura does not offer a diesel model.

AUDI:

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AUDI Q7 and A3 TDI, courtesy Audi

A3 2.0 TDI clean diesel is available, details here, a small hatchback that gets 30 mpg hwy, 42 city.

Audi Q7 TDI will be Audi’s diesel engined SUV, getting 17 mpg city, 25 mpg hwy.  Details available here.

These vehicle will take a maximum of B5 biodiesel.

BMW:

From BMW USA:

335d“We offer two diesels, the BMW Advanced Diesel 335d and the X5xDrive35d.  They have been on sale since January of this year.”x5_xDrive_35d

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BUICK:

No Buick diesels for 2010

CADILLAC:

No Cadillac Diesels

CHEVROLET:

No diesel engine cars for Chevy  this year.

CHRYSLER, JEEP, and DODGE:

No diesel cars this year for Chrysler brands.

FORD:

No diesel cars for Ford this year.

HONDA:

From Honda: “There are no current plans to bring a diesel-powered vehicle to the US in 2010.“

HYUNDAI:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

KIA:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

LEXUS:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

LINCOLN:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

MAZDA:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

MERCEDES-BENZ:

Mercedes ML-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz
Mercedes ML-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz

This year Mercedes offers the ML350 sport utility, 18 mpg city 26 hwy, R350 crossover, 18 mpg city 24 hwy, and the GL350 sport utility, 17 mpg ciy 23 hwy.  According to a representitive in addition to the above  Mercedes USA  will be adding the E350 to the famous Blutec Diesel line later in the year.

Mercedes RL-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz
Mercedes RL-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz
Mercedes GL-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz
Mercedes GL-350 courtesy Mercedes Benz

MERCURY:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

MITSUBISHI:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

NISSAN:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

PONTIAC:

The Pontiac brand has been discontinued.  Although the EPA lists a few Pontiacs for 2010, GM does not.

SAAB:

Saab, a division of GM,  formerly sold a diesel model. But it does not have one this year in the US, or in other countries.

SATURN:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

SUBARU:

In other countries, Subura offers the Legacy, Impreza, Outback, and Forrester all equipped with their impressive diesel boxer motor.  Sadly, none of those are available here so equipped.

TOYOTA:

No diesels listed for the 2010 model year.

VOLKSWAGEN:

Volkswagon Jetta courtesy Volkswagon
Volkswagen Jetta courtesy Volkswagen
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Volkswagen Golf TDI courtesy Volkswagen

Volkswagen will have the Jetta, 30 city 42 hwy , The Golf, 30 city 42 hwy, and the  Touareg SUV 18 city, 26 hwy.  These vehicle will take a maximum of B5 biodiesel.  To learn more, visit Volkswagen’s Clean Diesel Site

Volkswagon Touareg courtesy Volkswagon
Volkswagen Touareg courtesy Volkswagen

VOLVO:

Although there was talk of a 2010 diesel SUV from Volvo, it has failed to materialize.

149 thoughts on “2010 diesel cars in the USA: here’s the lineup”

  1. The US Government needs to gets their head out of the sand when it comes to small diesel powered cars & light trucks. It would save an incredible amount of oil if the EPA would lift the stupid restrictions in place on diesel vehicles. People in this country are too mobile – hybrid & electric vehicles will never be popular. You can, however, purchase diesel fuel at practically every gas station in America…& people would, if the products were made available. Our government is insane.

  2. @Randy: “Our” Government isn’t insane. We, the people, the consumers are insane. You can’t say the products are “not available”, because in FACT they are. If the diesels listed above became top sellers, then more auto manufactures would bring diesels to market. It would be easy for a company like Ford who already sells many of the exact same car (i.e. Focus) in Europe with diesel option.

    We have a Ford ’04 Lariat F250 Diesel that uses a home brew of B80. We tell everyone that our gas cost 70 cents a gallon. Every American consumer says diesel is something they don’t want or making fuel is to much of a hassle.

    We just purchased a 2009 Sportwagen TDi (Which, BTW IS NOT listed up there…it’s not a “Jetta”), so far it gets above 48MPG, and American consumers say its “too small”.

    You should come to the same conclusion that we have. It’s just too late for Americans. It a culture that is almost impossible to guide in alternative directions. Americans don’t care that 60% if the petrol in their tanks RIGHT NOW comes from countries such as SAUDI ARABIA, VENEZUELA, IRAQ, ANGOLA, and ALGERIA. Americans could care less about how Saudi courts behead women who are rape victims. That Angola comes in 44 of 48 in sub-Saharan African countries with the WORST human rights record.

    Bitching and moaning about how the government needs to get their head out of the sand is exactly way Americans will never “get it”. A country full of self-described victims. It’s always someone else’s fault. The American consumer names the tune and manufactures dance to it…not the other way around.

  3. I would buy a diesel in a heartbeat! But none of the Japanese or Korean cars are available. The ones that are available are high priced vehicle (Benz/BMW/Audi). And they only get 16 -26 MPG. Honda announced a 2.2 liter Diesel that can go 50 MPG. Toyota said their Tundra and Sequoia will have Diesel, but suddenly went cold! Instead, they go with the hybrid that is more hazardous to the environment. I’ve just visited Asia and they have all kinds of diesel. Why can’t we have the same here in the US?

  4. I would also buy a diesel in a heart beat. I am in the market for a full size SUV. I need the tow capacity and haul the family around on long trips, but I don’t need a diesel truck. The Q7 and GL350 are nice, but not quite big enough for the job. There isn’t anything else on the market right now. The diesel Sequoia or perhaps the diesel Yukon or Suburban seemed promising a year ago, but both Toyota and GM have failed to deliver.

  5. I have to agree with Dogma, until the consumer starts demanding that there are more diesel cars and suv’s available the auto industry will keep on putting out what sales. And the American people won’t start complaining until we see gas prices back up in the $4 a gallon range, which by the way is what most other countries are paying if not higher. I’m currently in Europe and all the car companies have diesel models here including the American made cars.
    And for Jammer the vw jetta that the listed mpg is only 45 I had a 01 jetta TDI that in the city with rush hr traffic would get 45 on the open free way was standard to get in the 60’s with my highest of 75mpg. and the jetta won’t make you go broke paying for it.

  6. No diesel cars in USA , Why is that ? the stupid gov officials who are in charge are to busy spreading their butt cheeks for the oil lobbyists . The oil lobbyists don’t want a car that can get 60 mpg .

  7. I would like to support these earlier comments. I was on vacation this summer and rented a car at Heathrow to drive to Luxembourg and back. (the trip was for a week and included a drive to Germany). I had a VW Passat diesel that had no trouble handling the 90+ mph highways, and four passengers. I put in only an additional 10 liters (2 1/2 gal) and returned the car on empty at the end of the week. If we had diesel available everywhere at prices comparable to gasoline, mileage would be superior to conventional engines with comparable performance. The government, public (mis)perceptions and petroleum industry are put us at a world-wide disadvantage.

  8. I say we move to corn ethenol instead of diesel. It has less energy per gallon than gasoline and has a horrible gallon to acre number. It gives a car slightly more power even though it takes 1.4 gallons of ethenol to go the same distance as 1 gallon of gas or .8 gallons of diesel. I mean diesel is more powerful, lasts longer, cleaner and can be made with algae at close to 100,000 gallons an acre per year or more. Who needs powerful cars when we can have gas guzzlers that make us feel better because it is corn. I mean corn is not even edible, have you tried it, very hard and too much effort to pull that cover off. I think we should buy more Ford Dodge and Chevy V8’s since they 1. Don’t last very long (helps the economy) 2. Suck fuel at a prodigious rate (better economy, helps terrorist nations blow us up, which also helps the economy and military grow) 3. Can run on corn ethonol so we can all pretend like we are saving the environment.

    I mean check this GMC out, 14 city and over 20 highway, with bluetooth. I can suck prodigious amounts of fuel and talk on a telephone through a radio. Imagine that.
    http://www.gmc.com/yukon/xl/index.jsp

    Or this Ford

    http://www.fordvehicles.com/suvs/expedition/specifications/engine/

    Same mileage!!!

    Diesel is what Americans don’t need. We need more big gas guzzlers that have a flex fuel label. I hope you are convinced.

    Thank you

  9. The REAL reason there are not more diesels here is because Congress decided!
    They were pressured by the big three to curtail import numbers under the guise of giving the domestics a ‘chance to get their hybrids into the marketplace’.
    As you can see, domestic hybrids generally suck eggs. Therefore it must be understood the move to ban large numbers of import diesels is because the big three have enough lobbying horsepower to SCALE BACK THE COMPETETION.
    Simple answer. And true!

  10. Stumbled upon this site searching for anything new in the diesel lineup. Some of you are searching for huge stuff to pull your boats and whatnot and get decent mileage and others are….I don’t know. What’s the problem if you want a diesel passenger car? Volkswagen and Audi are both offering good stuff. If you buy it then Ford and the Japanese will bring their diesel offerings to America. My problem is that I don’t need anything super large; the Q7 and Mercedes are too pricey as is the BMW xdrive5. I would love a Q5 in a diesel option or any other mid size SUV, perhaps a Ford Edge with a diesel option….more in the mid 30’s to low 40’s rather than 50k. I just want to get decent mileage, above 30, and be able to pull my tent camper. I might have to settle for a gas Edge, 4Runner or Pilot, or I’ll just wait. It really does suck though to see what is offered in Europe and elsewhere and that we don’t have it here and we have the largest distances.

  11. I bought a jeep crd diesel 2.8L in 2005. At every fuel stop — they will tell you you’re at wrong pump but you know it only takes diesel. The trips to stations are less. The mileage driven is greater. Winter weather it takes longer to warm up. I think how any vehicle is driven makes a difference!

  12. I’m looking for a small P/u that gets great milage. I had an ’82 chevette with an isuzu 1.8 diesel that got 52 mpg hwy. Chevy luv had some diesel engines in them. Bring them back.

  13. In not bringing a Diesel to the US the automakers are leaving out an entire market. there are lots of folks like myself that wont touch a hybrid but would buy a diesel in a heart beat if it was available

  14. it isn’t the government’s fault. sure, we have strict emmision laws and shit, but it’s nothing car companies can’t deal with. we have jettas and shit, and diesel pickups and semis, and they produce engines no problem. it’s not an evil government plot, americans just don’t buy the existing diesel models, so the car companies have no reason to bring them here, although if ford brought over their 60 mpg fiesta and launched an advertising campaign, it might grab some people’s attention.

  15. steve-o, be you VW employee or not, SportWagen is NOT a “Jetta”, it’s called Golf Variant which for some bizarre reason someone decided to rename for the U.S. market.

    Please communicate to your company that rebranding makes people angry.

    “Nenn das Kind beim Namen” – name the kid what it is, or “say it how it is” would be a good English translation of what I mean.

  16. Both Randy and Dogma are right in their way. I think I am preaching to the converted, but as an European that has been driving Diesel cars fo the last 13 years -after I realized that my fuel costs with my BWW 325/525 were obscene- .With my Renault Laguna and Peugeot 407 I reckon I have saved 5760 gallons of gas, equivalent, at the actual price of 5.6 $ gallon, to 32256 $.
    Any problems ? : One starter motor and two batteries in 323000 miles . No gas engine can match the reliability of a decent Diesel .
    You guys have the power , just tell your Volkswagen dealer that apart of the Golf they should bring the Passat . That is a fine vehicle with a sensible price . The 2 liter , 170 HP is great. It will do more than 40 mpg any time . Forget about Hybrids. Prius in Europe, in spite of all the hype, are as popular as Testarosas. If you want practical, reliable and sensible transportation go for the new VW Diesels and smile… Others will follow . Ford and GM have the Mondeo and the Insignia, both have quite decent Diesel engines.
    Cheers

  17. If Dogma is getting 48MPG on average in his Sportwagen TDI, I’d be shocked. Maybe one time, on a flat highway, downhill. I have the 09 TDI, and city it gets 34, and highway it gets 42 MPG on average. Great numbers still.

    Dogma, are you using anything greater than B5?

  18. It is the California emission standards that kept Honda from introducing its diesel into the US markets this year. It is the same engine that runs the European version of the Accord, and gets about 60 mpg (imperial) which equates to about 53 mpg US. They could meet the US standard, but didn’t want to introduce an engine that couldn’t meet standards in all 50 states.

    So, yes, the government IS the problem. One screwed up state is dictating for the rest of us what we can and can’t buy. Imagine a diesel hybrid? It could probably push 100 mpg! Either we are serious about getting off our dependence on foreign oil or we are not.

    Diesels can run on almost any kind of oil. You can produce it from algae and not use up our food supply or precious farmable land in the process.

  19. Yes, the government is the primary problem – and yes, it is state emission requirements rather than federal mandates that keep manufacturers from introducing into the US models that are very successful everywhere else. And for you guys who are saying that it is a demand driven issue: Have you tried buying a TDI recently? I don’t know about inventory countrywide but in the NJ area, diesel models are back-ordered to an absurd degree; Americans are certainly NOT willing to wait for 4 to 6 months to take delivery of a new car (certain exotics notwithstanding). We bought out the lease on our small SUV simply to give us breathing room to wait for delivery of a new TDI.

    The real question is: why aren’t the manufacturers shipping their lower level diesel 4WD products to the US? For some reason, the diesel powerplants only end up in low-end 2WD or high-end 4WD vehicles. For instance, why not bring in the diesel Tiguan or Q5? Or the A3/A4 quattro? Or the 3-series xi BMW’s? What happened to the Subaru diesel boxer? I just don’t believe that keeping affordable (and high margin) products out of the US market is a simple marketing decision on the part of the manufacturers – there is something else at play here.

    Conspiracy theories welcome…

  20. The conspiracy theory is that diesels make good sense. Why would the U.S. Goverment allow good sense to crept into any decisions it makes?
    I have driven a 300E turbo diesel since 1998. It drives today the same way it did when I drove it off the lot new 11 years ago.
    I have 186,000 miles on it currently. I get 24mpg city and 38hwy and it has a 22 gallon fuel capacity. That is 836 mile per tank when I am on a road trip. I think this is very good fuel ecomony for a full size sedan.
    I pass all the new small imports and hybrids knowing I am getting better mileage in an 11 year old car.
    We need a smaller car like the Subaru line with diesels in the U.S. I read somehwere that Sabaru make bring the line to the U.S. in 2010. I hope so because we need an affordable smaller diesel. I hope VW continues to bring diesels into the US and I wish all of the automakers would put pressure on the US to get diesel savings cars to our shores, or manufactured here by U.S. automakers.
    If you don’t think the american consumer would jump all over these vehicles, you best look at the sales of standard gas pick-ups vs. all the pick-ups with Power stroke or cummings diesels in them now.
    One of the most efficent companies for the last 10 years is U.P.S.. they made the switch from gas to diesel with good reason, it makes sense.
    I plan on driving mine until the engine needs to be rebuilt, which should be 700,000 to 1,000,000,000 miles from now.
    Happy Diesel Motoring
    imho

  21. I’m getting a 2-Door Golf Diesel! What a great looking car! I will drive the Golf while I wait for the Audi A3 Quattro to come with a diesel here, (currently the A3 diesel here is only front wheel drive). Of course in Europe , the A3 and A4 each come with 2-3-4 diesel options.
    Get out and buy a diesel!

  22. @Dan: That one screwed up state just so happens to be the largest car market in America. If diesel power were as in demand in CA as elsewhere in America, we’d have them all over America already. Politics and big government are part of the problem; the rest of the problem is ignorance. People, generally don’t question things and I doubt that very many people really care. As for the rest of us, we have to make our voices heard and this forum is a way to do that. Now, if everyone else would just listen.

  23. @Chris

    I have a lifetime average of 48mpg on my 2001 Jetta TDI… that’s with 178,000 miles (in the Rockies too, have the high elevation, constant up/down and wind to contend with). I do NOTHING to try and get that number… I drive the speeds I want, run AC when I like, use the torque (esp. from a stop… heh). Granted, this is the ALH motor and it’s been known to get better economy than the newer engines plus I have the 5speed, but someone who Tries to get better economy surely could hit 50mpg ave. with only a little effort.

    @Jesse ~ my wife and I are right there waiting with you. A3 TDI Quattro please. Actually, I’ve wished for a long time that the Allroad had been offered with the V6 diesel in the US. I’d have one in my garage already. I’ve even entertained the idea of picking up a rolling chassis and having the engine shipped from overseas for a self-assembly (considering doing that for my Toyota T100 too, bump economy by 1/3rd into the 30s ~ but it’s about $8k for the factory engine).

  24. Let me try to explain the government “conspiracy” of restricting diesels in California. This conspiracy is also known as …. s-m-o-g. Yes, my friends, while it may hard to believe, Los Angeles, Riverside and Fresno have a little problem with the air. (3 of the worst five cities in the U.S.). Diesel engines normally produce more oxides of nitrogen. And NOx contributes to smog. And smog contibutes to lung disease, asthma, and even lung cancer. The “conspiracy” is to try to stop smog and try to reduce the days that sick kids and grandpa must stay inside and increase the days they stay alive.

    The other conspiracy is also known as car and oil industry corruption. But not in California. The lamo American car companies have invested little in diesel technology, so instead they have invested millions into lobbyists to convince Congress to tax diesel at a higher rate than gasoline. American oil companies go along so they don’t have to retool and… sell less petrol. Politicians go along to get campaign dough.

    There is some hope. The Obama administration has upped CAFE for 2011, meaning the Germans will need to improve their fleet efficiency. If they don’t send over some diesels, they pay even bigger fines than they do now. Mercedes already pays massive fines due to its offering all those 505 HP AMGs getting 9/13 mpg.

    I too want a Diesel 170 HP A4 Allroad for next Christmas. But Audi is still wary.

  25. Check out the mahendra co. web site. They are an Indian co. that has been making diesel cars/trucks for years. They will be selling a diesel 4×4 in 2110. It will be available in 2 or crerw configuation. In 2011 they will also be intruducing an SUV

  26. that´s why hummer went bankrupt. H2´s and H3´3 should be running on diesel more efficient engines.

  27. If we bagan using considerably less fuel, Federal and State gasoline and diesel tax revenue would also drop considerably.

    Think about it.

  28. Mahindra would be a wonderful thing, but they aren’t bringing in a manual transmission. People who drive diesels are quirky, to be sure, but we know how to drive. How the heck can you control a car if you don’t have a clutch! Ditto Audi with their cute-as-a-button A3. No sale.

    Anyway, wifey drives a ’99 diesel VW Bug that routinely gets 48 mpg and she has hammered the little dear for 200,000 miles. Just priced out the 2010 Golf TDI that we have been waiting for for years. That could be it.

    The entire diesel thing is a chicken and egg story. The manufacturers don’t bring them in because people won’t buy them. People don’t buy them because manufacturers won’t bring them in. And they are NEVER advertised. I swear the petrobarons are actively discouraging diesel by scamming the guvamint into insanity like Bin 2 tier 5 regs. VW deserves my vote and I vote with my dollars.

    Bring ’em on! And let’s grow the fuel like Rudolf Diesel envisioned! Let the Arabs EAT the damned oil…

  29. @Wally -.. government “conspiracy” of restricting diesels in California. This conspiracy is also known as …. s-m-o-g.

    The new Diesel are as clean if not cleaner than the gasoline counterpart. A diesel that is 50 states approved that is.

    Toyota, please bring your Sequoia and Tundra and Tacoma here. Add a diesel Siena also. I’ll be in line to buy one.

  30. I drive a 1996 A6 TDI yes a Diesel Audi in Ohio not some other Country that is sooo lucky to have Diesels while we wait and wait… oh and I see a filler station 9-10 times a year or every 1200-1400km and my fuel tank is 19.6 gallons so do the math and you will never drive anything but a Diesel. Did I mention that I shipped it to Ohio 343,000km ago good thing I didn’t wait for some top brass to decide I’m allowed to buy one at my local dealer I’d still be holding my breath. This TDI has paid for itself in fuel savings alone not to mention the low cost of maintenance. So to all of you talkers and finger pointers that know everything I ask you how is it you never figured this out. Just when will you smile as you drive off from the filler station. So stop talking and trying to change the government and everyone in it just do what I did. There I just fixed all your fuel economy problems; now go on to more important things you’re welcome.

  31. It appears that Jeep does have a diesel engine! Jeep Grand Cherokee has an option for this. Not reliable research on this site. 🙁

  32. I have two 2005 VWs (Jetta Sport Wagon & Passat Sport Wagon) both purchased May 2005. Each has just over 100,000 miles. My Jetta is driven by my 22 year old daughter who has averaged 53 mpg and the Passat north of 42 mpg. Our cars have never been garaged here in New England and they have never failed to start on the coldest morning. Engine performance and reliability has never declined and they cruise at 75 mph with ease. I just ordered a Q7 TDI, I believe in VW’s TDI technology.

  33. IMHO 2 things have stunted the popularity of Diesel vehicles in the US as compared to Europe: 1. EPA has been an enemy of the diesel engine for a long time. 2. GM’s blunders during the mid 80’s putting a sour note on Diesels, which is what most people remember when you say the word DIESEL.

    Most people don’t do there homework. Americans are Lazy and non caring. It takes a little time and effort to do the research to realize that Diesel vehicles are superior in many ways. I suspect that you could change the name of the corner gas station to “Taliban Oil” and dress all employees as suicide bombers, then lower the price below the others and there would still be a line that would block traffic.

    In 1985 I bought a brand new Mercury Lynx, same car as the Ford Escort at the time.It had a Mazda Diesel engine. 43 City and 50 Hwy. Now the big 3 brag about 30 Mpg.

    I now own a 2000 Dodge Dually Cummings TD, 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD, 2006 Dodge Sprinter/Mercedes TD and a 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee with MB V6 TD.

    You have to work a little harder, but you can find some decent vehicles with the Diesel option.

  34. Americans beware!!! Diesel fuel can be made from corn with no waste!!! Only need the oil and the rest is given to cattle as feed. Can ethenol do that….No way!!! Students from an inner city VO-TECH built and perfected a small diesel engine that gets 64 mpg hwy and 52 mpg for city….Imagine that. The EPA in europe has much stricter regs on their diesel engines then we do in the US…. So stand up to the Car Makers and demand a car that is diesel which last twice as long as a gas engine or even longer!!!! We have owened a DODGE PICKUP diesel for 12 yrs and 265,000 miles later is still going strong. Reg maintaince and upkeep is all we have done!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE !

  35. 2 Apathist
    > I mean check this GMC out, 14 city and over 20 highway, with bluetooth. I can suck prodigious amounts of fuel and talk on a telephone through a radio. Imagine that.

    True American – what America has is the all-time virtue. Americans doesn’t need to think or find something new, yes

    Your new, ultra-modern flex fuel GM makes 20mpg
    One of my friends has an old diesel Chevy Suburb ’91
    No flexfuel, almost 20-years old car makes 25mpg

    Just FYI

  36. Everybody stuck with those hybrids – oh, they’re “green”, “economical” bla-bla

    Nobody didn’t even try to think.
    Producing of the power cell is NOT green, it pollutes tons of poisonous stuff; moreover, recycling of them does the same thing – and you have to replace you battery every 5 years

    Economical? Ha. Just take a paper and calculate the difference in prices for Prius(that great Toyota swindle) and Corolla and difference in fuel consumption.

    Oh, yeah – Prius will be profitable. After 10 years

  37. VW seems to be able to sell every Diesel they can make.

    The real issue is the fact that the diesel “option” is expensive. For example the new VW golf the Diesel adds $4000 to the cost of the car. In reality this is a price gouge. (IMHO)

    If diesel cars cost the same as a gas powered car the USA dealers would clearly sell more of them.

    Diesel has between 20 and 30% more energy than gas at around the same cost as regular. What a bargain.

    On any highway Diesel is available. EVERYWHERE.

    Subaru could sell a diesel here tommrow BUT there are now NEW emissions standards for diesel.

    BUT when there were NO diesel emissions rules Diesel autos still did not sell.
    The real issue is with the consumer. Americans do not beleive that diesel is “good” for cars. Trucks ok But cars no.
    So diesel based auto ompanies need to band together and inform the american consumer.

    If you try to drive a new diesel jetta you would be hard pressed to know that it is a diesel.
    This is due to the new technology. That tech is expensive.
    $4000 a car. Is it worth it?
    I think so.
    Tdimofo

  38. > Americans do not beleive that diesel is “good” for cars

    Toyota was able to sell to americans an absolutely rubbish hybrid idea
    Should be simple with diesel

  39. Small correction – you state the following: “Saab, a division of GM, formerly sold a diesel model. But it does not have one this year in the US, or in other countries.”
    In fact, according to the Saab UK website, the company does offer diesel variants of both the 9-3 and 9-5 in the UK, so one would assume this is also the case throughout the rest of Europe.

  40. I had try diesel A3 in taiwan this morning, You know what I love it.
    Powerful especially running on mountain road.

    I guess I might get VW golf wagon with Diesel when I back to NY.

  41. Sucks in the US. Diesel is the best choice when you want to buy a car. “old”/”classic” engines (not commonrail,pdtdi, cdti etc.) can used by used engine oil or used vegetable oil too. In Hungary, people usually earn 400 dollars a month. 3 dollar / hour! And lots of taxes, tolls, you must pay for evertything. Speeding? The fine is 1200 dollar!!! (yes, you can’t pay it from 400dollar/month) Car prices are higher than yours, used, or brand new too. The price is double here!!!
    And the prices at the gas stations are horrible. 1 litre = 1.5 dollar (i think it’s around 5.56 dollar a gallon). Here you can’t buy car with big engine like a v8 or a v6. The “best” cars have just a small turbo diesel engine, 1300-1600ccm. A great car “eats” just 4-5 liter/100km (60+ mpg) IN CITY!!!
    Hungary, a member of the European Union…….

  42. I find two things quite amazing, firstly that diesel is so much more expensive than gas in the US as it is a less refined product so should be cheaper, just as it is in most european countries. The other is that basically US based car makers cannot sell in the UK (and I suspect Europe) unless they offer diesels. For example Jeep for one, had to get diesel engines from a european manufacturer. Obviously this must mean that the US is lagging behind on research and development and potential exports. Having had a small car diesel since they were introduced in the UK, I would never go back. My first one literally cut my fuel bill in HALF. Nowadays the diesels are so good they do way more mpg, are quite often faster than a petrol (gas) engined car plus safer as they dont explode in accidents, ok they cost a bit more, but unless you are a very low mileage driver you still come out in front. Although fuel prices are more expensive in the UK, when you compare the difference in average mpg the cost per mile is not so different. US drivers could save about 20% to 30% on their fuel bills with no effort and no disadvantage. With health care costs so expensive over there I would have thought any saving would be helpful. (BTW i pay approx 8% of my salary which covers contributions to healthcare,pensions and welfare fund so what we lose on gas prices we gain elsewhere)

  43. Money under the table is why we have very few diesels to pick from in the USA. We have token diesel availability in the USA and the powers that be have their fingers crossed that the average American will still think of the diesel as it was known in the 70s and 80s, as smelly, hard to start and slow. VW could be selling small trucks like they use too with diesel engines. No one else does. They could put the same engine in a small truck that they use in the Jetta. They would sell them as fast as they could build them. Honda, Toyota and other car manufacturers were to have diesels available by now in the USA. Where are they? Ford had a small light/V8 diesel engine for their F150 pickup but for some reason decided to shelf it for now. Who has the most to gain from the addiction we have for oil? Would it be the oil companys? What would happen if half the country suddenly started driving cars that got 50mpg and realized how nice and quiet a modern day diesel engine performed. Would the oil companys start losing money? Will the American people ever get their head out of the sand and demand something be done about all the money changing hands under the table?

  44. Once you have owned a turbo diesel car & driven it, you will not want another gas powered car. I have been around diesel engines since 1961 & believe me they are no more complicated than a F.I. gas engine & a hell of a lot more reliable.
    My current car is a volvo V70 2.4 turbo diesel, it goes like the wind & does more than 50 mpg at a constant 70 mph.
    What more do you want.

  45. I ve been wondering all these years why the hell there are no diesels in the US. I live in Europe and almost every car maker and model has a diesel engine available. Not only that they are way more efficient (fuel consumption is much lower) diesel engines are much more reliable (engines last a lot lot more). I think that Americans should try to realize that they are being played. Have you ever seen a heavy truck run on a gasoline engine well i haven t they are diesels just simply because their mpg is so much greater that way saving the owner money. Oh yeah and its not the HP that counts but the torque and all new diesel engines have a greater torque than gasoline. Just an example a Volvo S70 with a 2.5 gasoline engine 140 hp has no chance in a 0 to 60 sprint with a VW Passat with a 1.9 TDI engine and 105 hp. Oh yeah and one more thing why do you all people look at the average MPG (not everyone drives like an old grandma) a gasoline engine pushed to drive at higher speeds and acceleration will consume way more fuel while a diesel pushed the same way will have a significantly smaller increase in consumption.
    PS Cummins is American and they make really good diesel engines…..but just fit them in trucks.

  46. The BMW links do not work. I love the Mercedes even though they don’t seem to be much better for gas mileage. I can’t wait to see the E350.

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